What pictures did you use for the service? Watts asked his mother during the explosive one-on-one two-hour special. No way his mother would have said that crap. SW would have been smart (and kind and generous and all those other nice qualities she did not display toward her husband) in acknowledging how important CWs family was *to him* and making a strenuous effort to include them and build a friendly relationship with them. Cindy Watts mouth turns upside down when she speaks of Shannan in videos. According to sources in the know his sister and mother are behind this awful Facebook page and people from it send horrible stuff to shananns parents and police are aware and are investigating. The Mother-in-law never saw the post about the nuts that she did on Facebook. What she did do is add to our fami,y and gave me two awesome grandsons. No. THAT DOES NOT GIVE CHRIS THE RIGHT TO DO WHAT HE DID. That said, Im not sure I understand the camp [besides the family] who are championing the cause of Chris Watts. They can go back under their rocks now we have all seen enough. Chris sister, Jaime (at least its likely his sister), addresses briefly some of these very topics in a forum a couple months ago. When I see Chris pictures from when he was younger, I see dead eyes. Does anyone know if she's ever made any kind of public statement or opinion? Trinket doesnt say much, does she? Chris Watts is a disgusting excuse for a human being. If all this has been brewing since the time of their wedding and even before then, you have to wonder whether the move to Colorado was a way to get away from it all. Interesting hypothesis, but its pretty clear from the interview/interrogation that Chris only starts talking about that scenario *after* the investigator floats the question about ShanAnn doing something to the girls as the reason why he killed her. Chris Watts Sister Jamie Watts-Williams Tarot Reading 1,156 views Mar 17, 2021 Insightful Carrie 2.34K subscribers Dislike Share Join this channel to get access to perks:. Yes, a lot of mom denial. So Cindy Watts didnt attend her sons wedding. What if Chris hatred of Shanann was misplaced? Chris Watts book Chris Watts' sister Jamie Watts. I also dont think she would have said she would tell about his affairs. From CWs perspective, when SWs *parents* came and stayed in their home *for over a year*, that was more evidence that SWs parents/side of the family would be a major part of their lives, while his own family, whom he was very close to, would not. She didnt take away my son, I dont own him. This!!!! o His mother worked as a secretary and notary for a used car dealership. Chris Watts, on the other hand, killed his pregnant wife AND his two living children. That was not an excuse to kill her by any means but she was fairly toxic herself. I see your point. As soon as we intuit a reason, that is a motive, the Shanann camp get very angry. Privacy Policy. If Watts started to develop first enmity, then a murderous resentment towards his wife [no one is saying he was justified, just that those feelings had to have been there], then if his own parents disliked Shanann [as Scott Petersons disliked or felt superior to Lacis] he may have felt he could get away with it. I think its the most reasonable one on here. Chris was very close to his *father*, so while he might have tolerated a high level of ShanAnn aggression toward his *mother*, when she cut off *both* his parents, that was a bridge too far. Ronnie blocked Shannan from Facebook. [UPDATED] | True Crime Rocket Science / #tcrs, Yes, there is a way to test whether bodies could be placed through the Thief Hatch with [or possibly without] breaking bones but youre not going to like it. Surely that will be dealt with harshly at a later date. Was it because they were an extension of Shanann? Why not believe the physician that prescribed the epi pen? The one where Cici had turned around and I got a really good close up picture of her and I used that, 64-year-old Cindy said. , he was always a lunatic, he just mimicked others very well. Too bad it took 4 lives, 4 innocent lives to find out what a monster he was. It was more about the supervision for Shannan than it was about anything else and she flipped her lid and the kids were hiding behind the curtains because they were scared. Didnt attend what? Whatever amount of attention Shanann wasted on this family was to much. Thats what they all do play victim. The families involved have interesting, if not dysfunctional, dynamics going on. Chris Watts did. We have a great relationship because of that. Only the ones that truly lived it. I think that Shannan tried to make things work while Cindy spent her time trying to show Chris that Shannan wasnt good enough. Chris Watts. Does anyone know how the video* of the conversation between Chris Watts and his sister, Jamie Lyn Williams, was leaked to the internet? It wasnt about killing his inner child but resurrecting it. [She looked so] serious. Theres no such thing as all good or all bad. They were fighting, money problems ,being sued by the homeowners association. 11 mo. ago. I think you might be spot on. #crime #chriswatts #shanannwattsHis father is his hero and his best friend.shanann watts chris watts, true crime, watts family murders, jamie watts, cindy watts, ronnie watts chris watts, full story, chris, watts, prison mail, fan mail, nichol kessinger, shanann ,love letters, christopher, shanann watts, christopher watts, chris watts full story ,murders, murder, life,morbid minds, autopsy, watts family, confession, dr phil, he watts family homicides, interview, denver7 chris watts, chris watts confession interview, chris watts sentencing, interrogation,shanann watts videos, chris watts arrest, home search, documentary, chris watts neighbor camerahttps://reachableshop.com/https://www.instagram.com/reachableshop/Chris Watts rebellious sister Jamie drops Watts - Was loved by Chris Watts Wifehttps://youtu.be/6u1L9jeh434 Charged with misdemeanor child abuse. I watched the doc on Netflix, and I think theres a lot going on that no one will ever know. Next time she will not do thatoh wait, never mind she cant correct her behavior because Chris killed her and the girls. We support you 100%. Everyone would be so sad for him that his family were gone and so pleased that he went on to find a new woman (Vomit). Kathleen. he met Nicky Kessinger and wanted a fresh new start, and to an empty vessel of a soul narcissist, that meant eliminating his family, not divorcing his wife, but eliminating her. Chris Watts was done with his wife and children so he slaughtered them. For those who believe Shanann killed her kids, would it have been for one or more of the same reasons I listed for Chris? Secondly, my impression while researching the Scott Peterson case was that the Petersons didnt think that much of Laci, or Lacis family. Cindy Watts probably pressured her not to partake. The day that bitch died was the best day ever, Cindy watts was toxic to that marriage. Celestes nut allergy was a bunch of BS. But she told Bella that CeCe would die if she ate coconut!! But I think shes was the Root of all Evil. Does the "we" refer to Ronnie and Jamie Williams [Chris Watts' sister] as well? Two camps? The nut incident. She had many faults within herself. Nonetheless why risk it? Agree with all of the above. Are additional videos available of Chris with other visitors to prison? A community to discuss the murders of Shan'ann, Bella, Celeste, and Nico Watts, who were murdered by their confessed killer, Christopher Lee Watts, now serving 5 life sentences at Dodge County Correctional Institution on Waupun, WI. After he was moved to the Wisconsin prison, they were on his visitor's list but with the Covid lockdown and the distance, I doubt there were many in-person visits. Youre right, many comparisons to be made. 34-year-old Chris Watts pleaded guilty to first-degree murder and other charges in the killings of his wife, Shanann, 34, and their children Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, before crudely disposing of them at a isolated site where he worked. His former mistress on Inside Edition said they watched the movie Shutter Island the first night they had sex. and our They cut her off. Would you put your child, no seatbelt, in a car with a drunk driver? Haha, that was my own mother. Shananns the root of evil? If you nodded your head while saying no is also a lie. I, too, am interested in knowing more about the family dynamics, characters involved and MLM influence. Talking about his family, Chris's parents are his mother Cindy Watts, and his father Ronnie Watts. I know she didnt attend the court sentencing etc. My thoughts are just that its a pretty big deal not to go to a wedding so it would be interesting to get all the facts. There was a stolen set of manuscript notes which are not a book, but interview notes. This site isnt in any camp except the true crime camp, which means investigate sometimes dispassionately what happened, and why. Kathleen Its simply an act of madness. Mothers Day fell on May 12th. Its not professional, Jamie Watts Williams job connection to nutgate. The scenario where Chris saw ShanAnn killing the girls wasnt Chris own idea originally. I think Chris became Chris by way of his mother. God is watching. NOTHING. Zoom in on his eyes. There can also be a rhyme and reason to insanity, and its true crimes mission to find those rhymes and reasons. Passive aggressive and it smacks of Cindys influence. Thats all I mean. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Maybe thats putting it too strongly: that if he did what he did they wouldnt blame him. Chris and Nikkis affair started at the end of June, lasted through July and into August until Chris murdered his family. Great relationship, so its hard for me to picture dynamics like what Shanann and Cindy had. I just wished you would have talked to us more.. Thats what regular folks do. She was pretty controlling. Privacy Policy. Though I have no idea how he can sleep at night definitely didnt end up with the mistress being in jail and all. She was, she was you and I know its so hard for you. Ashley's main point is that Chris Watts was a seething, passive-aggressive narcissist. Agreed. Chris Watts is a liar and like all sociopath narcissist did a smear campaign on Shanann. 20K views, 82 likes, 21 loves, 980 comments, 173 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from Your Content: Featuring Colorado Killer Chris Watts, His Parents Cindy & Ronnie Watts and Sister, Jamie Lyn. Monstrous dad Chris Watts was signaled to make up a story by his mother prior to pleading guilty to the murder of his pregnant wife and two daughters, exclusive video obtained by Your Content set to debut Oct. 23 reveals. For more information, please see our Proof is in the planning, deliberate smothering of his 2 little girls TWICE, and murder of tgeir mother and baby Nico.all planned weeks in advance. CHRIS WATTS / Is This His Sister Jamie Lynn Williams AKA 'Trinket78' 4,581 views Jun 16, 2019 60 Dislike Share Save ParadiseMedia 4.72K subscribers CHRIS WATTS / Is This His Sister Jamie. For my part, Im interested in knowing more about the family dynamics, and the characters involved. THEY WERE ALL INVITED. It wouldnt surprise me if Cindy Watts talked to Chris after the nut explosion and said Look, I am so sick of Shanann and those girls, if you dont divorce her or just get rid of her then I will tell her about your affair. Everyone closely connected to this dreadful situation seem v strange, So not so sure about your Rzucek normal family scenario. He was sentenced to three consecutive life terms in prison plus 84 years in Nov. 2018 for his heinous crimes. What he did was deplorable and disgusting beyond belief. I saw an interview with one of Chris Watts former mistresses, not Nichol but the one before her. Cindi is truly an evil psychotic person. And they can record all they want. Bullshit. So she travels to give them medicine or treatment. Chris Watts rebellious sister Jamie drops Watts - Was loved by Chris Watts Wifehttps://reachableshop.com/https://www.instagram.com/reachableshop/On August 15, 2016, exactly two years prior to the day #ChrisWatts would confess to murder, #ShanannWatts welcomed her amazing, awesome and down-to-earth sister-in-law Jamie to the #Thrive by #LeVel family.Cops: With regard to Chris Watts background and upbringing. What if his (unconscious) hatred and rage was really meant for his mother? Shanann was still in Colorado in June. I think it looks foolish for her to write the book with her mother denying illness and allergies while being in the health care industry. Gabby is actually Cindy Watts lmao. Shanann tried to involve these in laws from hell. THEY WERE ALL EVIL in not going. They jabbered on and on and on AND THE WHOLE THING WAS CAUSED BY THEIR GOOD-FOR-NOTHING SON!!!! As Shanann asked her too. Does the we refer to Ronnie and Jamie Williams [Chris Watts sister] as well? o JAMIE is seven (7) years older than him. This suggests Mothers Day and Fathers Day in 2018, in the Watts home, were hugely significant milestones, particularly with a third baby on the way. Nothing special. If you dont get a chill, then I must be out to lunch. I feel so sad for her family, they dont deserve this, Shanann was NOTHING like his mother. irrational buy-in to such an inevitable financial disaster. Cindy didnt kill anybody. How could she be so without human empathy that Chris Wattss mother says its okay if he killed Shannan? We won't post to any of your accounts without asking first. Archived post. The text messages where she almost expects Chris to be reading her mindoverall there are just a lot of red flags that tell me she was likely a very toxic partner. Were all just people. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Id fight. Then she gave Bella an icecream with nuts in it and left CeCe with none as she did not buy any special nut free food. If Chris Watts had simmering resentments, then the enmity between his wife and his mother could only have turned on the heat even further. As far as I have read, this video is from when he was in the Colorado prison. I think that Chris wanted to save face. Although both families essentially lived in the same town, they apparently did not know each other or regularly cross paths, so this would have been a valuable opportunity to get to know each other better, since the families would now be linked together via the happy couple. Cindy Watts interview with WCNC.com feels genuine, especially this part of the transcript. His actions will never be justified. Following their sons admission, Ronnie and Cindy Watts protected Chris innocence, claiming his lawyer talked him into confessing to a crime with mounting evidence against him whether he committed those acts or not. If only his wife had a clue he was this dangerous, she could have had a fighting chance to get away from him. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Chris, I forgive you, and your sister forgives you and we will never abandon you.. But opting out of some of these cookies may have an effect on your browsing experience. Thank you for putting my thoughts into words (so eloquently). Its always about control with these women. By clicking Sign Up, you agree to our Terms and Conditions and that you have read our Privacy Policy. There is also what woman called the schoolhis sister or mother or his mistress? You are right Nan, Shanan should not have gone on Facebook to vent about her mother in law and the dangerous nuts incident. There are no sides in this tragedy. Nonetheless why risk it? To just throw them away? Sign up to receive our biggest stories as soon as theyre published. She was human and had flaws just like all of us. #chriswatts, A post shared by Nick van der Leek (@nickvdleek) on Oct 30, 2018 at 12:28am PDT. His despicable family took up more time than anybody. You usually tell that person and give them the option of asking someone else. She was smart and beautiful and had family, she didnt need him. She suffered enough. Over time her actions ,her treatment of him, his parents. Both were high powered women, both were the in charge types, both married passive, easy going guys who seemed to be OK with doing things their wifes way. The Petersons were fairly wealthy when Scott Peterson was born, and he was spoiled and treated like a Golden Child. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Chris Watts with his Sister Wife, Children & Relationships Chris met Shanann Watts in 2010; she was an independent representative for a multilevel marketing company called 'Le-vel,' which is focused on selling the wellness product called 'Thrive.' I cant imagine how shanann is the one being attacked but not his mother, sister, or mistress. He wanted his own wild child to have another run around the paddock. That is a losing battle. Her Thrivinga bomb waiting to go off. There cant be a reason or any underlying dynamic leading to murder, nor can there be any premeditation. But notice that, in the wake of NutGate, Chris commented to ShanAnn that she had put a dagger between him and his *father*. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. After Chris admitted to the murders, Ronnie and Cindy each gave statements to the court. So rehash all the old disputes and wounds, nothing stands but his murderous actions. Tell it to God some day. WATTS [Licks lips]: Im so happy that theyre here. If you look at her while she is saying that here head is moving side to side, that usually indicates that someone is lying. I treat her like I do my daughter. One of the younger kids at the house pulled out some ice cream. I grew up in upper middle class. Estranged from the family? He is where he belongs and will die there. Those invested in the case have wondered why she has yet to speak out. He is a narcisstic twit and wanted a new life with the GF. Two camps appear to be forming, those who support Chris Watts [in some way], and those who side with Shanann [as the innocent victim]. Nick, they didnt attend the wedding because Shann,Ann fired Jamie and her children from the wedding a week earlier because Jamie couldnt get off work to attend the bridesmaids hair and nail events. That argument falls apart when you consider Shanann and Cindy didnt get along. Thats it. I also do not think it is uncommon for a person to choose a spouse who mirrors the opposite of their personality. Nothing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING that Shanann did merited a death sentence. Two camps. Shanann was always in control. I knew there had to be a wife vs mother prize fight going on after reading Shananns reaction to the nut incident with Chriss mother. She works with patients in home care. only a fraction of the reality? Other than wanting to see a trial, its difficult to see him other than as a very tarnished and very pathetic character. She even waited for her husband to run out of the house on an errand to expose CeCe to the nuts. This mother in law was rude to her the first time they met. Right now doing everything they can, it-it just scares the living crap out of me knowing its come to this. The one with Bella at the splash pad where she was wrapped up in a blanket.
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