and is the second highest point in Derbyshire. Although the aircraft was severely damaged it was not that badly fragmented and in 2006 Pat reported that nothing remained, certainly on the surface of the site, the few scraps of debris left behind after the clear-up operation having been taken to the Hayfield Rangers station near Bowden Bridge, where they were still to be seen. I do remember years ago seeing something on telly about some blokes who had gone onto the moors to look at wreckage and them having seen a ghostly figure of an airman. It is not known why Captain Tanner did not fly at a height sufficient to clear the high ground. Lots of people stroll out along the path for a short distance then return to their cars. Start / Finish layby on the A57/Snake Pass (SK087929) Nearest town Glossop. Crewmen of the crashed Tornados named; Thanks everyone. Republic P-47D-1-RE Thunderbolts, 42-7872 and 42-7898. The memorial at the B-29 crash site B-29 Crash Site Walk. However there is a post like this further on at Hern Clough where the route leaves the PW. Andrew I think it was from the crash site above where someone once took a piece of wreckage home and put it in thier garden shed, which almost shook itself to bits during the night, so the bloke whod taken the debris returned it to the crash site the following morning. SK 06926 89664 Kinder: initial impact point, start of debris trail (illustrated above), SK 07268 90236 Black Ashop Moor: wings, gear, with an engine in an adjacent grough, SK 07300 90100 Black Ashop Moor, two debris pools, SK 07548 90390 Black Ashop Moor, the second engine, I note that there is a lot less here then in. Boeing RB-29A 44-61999 of the 16th Photographic Reconnaissance Squadron, 91st Reconnaissance Group, 311th Air Division, Strategic Air Command, USAF, Crashed at Higher Shelf Stones on Bleaklow near Glossop 3rd November 1948. Time your visit with the heather season in the Peak District; this is for roughly three weeks from late August to early September. The Peak District is one of her favourite areas for exploring. Thanks Brian, I shall get a copy. CREW The aircraft had also taken part in the Berlin airlift during 1948. It was very good to meet you too. Pat Cunningham has offered a bit of a blurb about the Sabre, and its Canadair development the CL-13: I had a great day out with Ian DB last Saturday on and around Shining Tor, near Macclesfield. It is unlawful to remove debris as well as unethical but clearly that wont stop the minority. Distance: 2 mile/3.3 km Grid reference SK 08894 94785. The aircraft bore the name Over Exposed after it was flown in July 1946 by the 509th Composite Group during Operation Crossroads to photograph nuclear testing at Bikini Atoll, including the dropping of an atomic bomb by B-29 Superfortress Dave's Dream. Newspapers, both local and national, asked not to divulge the pilots identity, chose to honour the request; neither is it Air Accident Investigation Branch policy to publish names. No doubt your analysis is correct; some people got fed up carrying the debris and dumped it. [1][2], The aircraft crashed at Higher Shelf Stones on the Bleaklow moorland plateau near Glossop in Derbyshire on 3 November 1948. Its a shame that the wreckage cant be left alone to act as a memorial to those who died in the crash. As for your unexpected company, Id have been running the opposite way at that time of the morning. He was the Radar operator on Overexposed. History (scroll down for notes on visiting the crash site and moving on to other crash sites on Bleaklow) The Superfortress took off on the morning of 3 November 1948, at around 10.15 from Scampton, Lincolnshire for Burtonwood USAF base, near Warrington, England. It is north of Kinder Scout, across the Snake Pass (A57), and south of the A628 Woodhead Pass. This area is 610 m (2,000 ft) above sea level, making the . Keep left, the path doesnt actually fork, and another paved section is joined. Nicely done Ian. On 14th November 2014 my son and I visited the crash site of Over Exposed on Bleaklow and returned down White Clough and then West along the Doctors Gate path. The only way crash site remains will be visible to at least some people in future is if people stop removing them now. Since the photographs shown above were taken in 1999 the site has changed considerably, it was noticeably different in 2003 but the difference now is even more marked. Would you say the terrain is suitable for a 2 year old? We do not recommend doing the Bleaklow plane crash walk in bad weather. CAMERA CREW Agree with SolarScot re yesterdays events. This involved laying 52 kilometres (32mi) of geotextiles to stabilise eroded peat, creating 4,000 mini-dams to retain water, introducing 150,000 moorland plants and spreading 807 million Sphagnum fragments across the whole Bleaklow Project site. really nice shot ian i love the peat colour with morning / evening sun on it ,such a contrast to when its cloudy and wet, it being almost black then.. when i was heading upto that crash site and saw in the distance what appeared to be a figure a few times i thought no it must be some sheep or something it carnt be another person at this time just carry on .and if it would have been along torside clough at that time in the morning seeing a figure NO WAY! It appeared to be part of the nose, or tail, wheel assembly and included the chromed stanchion and steel fittings. By chance members of the Harpur Hill RAF Mountain Rescue Unit were just finishing an exercise two and a half miles away, so they quickly made their way to the scene of the crash but there was clearly nothing that could have been done for any of the crew. Photo above: if you want to return to the Pennine Way via Hern Clough, the path leaves the crash site near the remains of the tail turret section. So do I Ian, TBF Andrew, you have to make a specific effort to come across it, its hardly strewn across the Pennine way. Height 29ft 7in. I scared the life out of a couple of kids (he he) I had me trusty tommy tin helmet and camoflage jacket on wandering out of the fog! He looked a bit like the Movie actor Tyrone Power. [8][9], Passenger George Daniel Hempstead (Killed), Bomb Aimer Charles Douglas Brown (Killed), Navigator Charles Leslie Grisdale (Injured), Wireless Operator Michael Cecil Cameron (Killed), Air Gunner Leslie Claude Hellekson (Killed), Crew Chief Theodore R. McCrocklin (Killed), Radio Operator Francis M. Maloney (Killed), Leading Aircraftman John Dunlop Main, RAF (Killed). A large amount of wreckage of the Bleaklow Bomber is still visible. Given the duration hed be in a carrier some of the way. A memorial was erected at the site in 1988. Great shot! The signs referred to a waymarked route to the crash site. All these flyers were likely WW2 VETS who had much experience with very serious, difficult flights. It also states there would have been a fairly strong head wind, quartering in. The change in weather only added to the fun of the day for us. Service ceiling 31.850 ft. Fab! Location: United Kingdom. Researching historic aviation accidents and locating crash sites in the Peak District & throughout the British Isles. Thank you for your visit Terry, and thank you too for the additional information. There is also a lovely path which takes you along the south-eastern edge of Crooked Clough and then turns left to briefly follow Doctors Gate. North American F. Mk.4 Sabres (or are they Canadair CL-13s?) fantastic that you have a history of your own, visiting these places and returning over time. The trail of wreckage left by the two F86 Sabres on Kinder Scout. You may wonder, , well Paul Taylor has this covered in his comprehensive article. These can make navigation across the moors difficult, as it can be tempting not to follow the straight line of a compass bearing but opt instead for easier walking along the sandy bottom of the channel, which soon makes any compass bearing worthless. It would make a tough challenge walk to visit them all in one day. The people who remove wreckage whether to sell on e-bay or for their private collection (i.e. Onboard were P/O Craig, a pilot with the Squadron, who had taken leave in the Edinburgh . Navigator, Sergeant Charles Wilbanks Visit this Site. It was also likely the pilot was not completely accounting for the head wind in his decent. But of course, you can pick and choose which to visit and hopefully these grid references (via Pat Cunningham) will help. While there are several ways to get to the crash site, the easiest is via the Snake Pass walk. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Going too far to the south will put you in Crooked Clough which will of course mean a climb back out again. Private First Class William M. Burrows. Sad tale Ian. the Botha crash site on Bleaklow. In order to get below the 2000 ft. ceiling, and off course slightly by the wind, the pilot found 2050 ft. Bleaklow Hill . It was very heavy and may have been left after the collectors became tired of carrying the weight more than a kilometer from the site. If you continue to use this site we will assume that you are happy with it. Arlington National Cemetary, Section 12. Ossoms Hill, Grindon. Good point Bill. In a couple of minutes you will arrive at the point where you leave the PW at SK 09708 94773. A first load, at an estimated weight of one thousand pounds, had been successfully lifted. [http://www.flickr.com/photos/amybigkiss] [http://www.flickr.com/photos/cachelog] [http://www.flickr.com/photos/het_broertje] [http://www.flickr.com/photos/stopherjones] [http://www.flickr.com/photos/angwickham] Thanks very much guys, I appreciate your appreciation. Ours has been great value. Superfortress 44-61999 Over-Exposed! air crash site on Bleaklow, maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&ll=53.45054,-1.864591&am, There's a Crashed B-52 Bomber In Maine That You Can Visit -, All photos and text are aircrashsites.co.uk unless otherwise stated. Trig point at Higher Shelf Stones (on a sunny day!) I wonder if it is from the C-47 crash site in Ashton Clough? However, if you need to get your bearings when you are at the site, the trig point is visible from the memorial stone. Pilot, Captain Landon P. Tanner [http://www.flickr.com/photos/peacelovescoobie] All that rusty wreckage seems to mirror the peaty hues behind it.Funny who you can bump into isnt it ? Looking for aircraft wreck site coordinates in Derbyshire, Staffordshire, and the rest of the Midlands, The Peak District, Yorkshire Moors, Snowdonia, Lake District, Trough of Bowland, Brecon Beacons or Shropshire? . The aircraft was soon reported missing and the local authorities and nearby RAF Mountain Rescue Service team were alerted. The aircraft was on a routine flight from RAF Scampton to American AFB Burtonwood. Sergeant Robert I. Doyle [http://www.flickr.com/photos/reflectionsreturn] [http://www.flickr.com/photos/27955898@N07] Start grid reference for this walk is: SK 08808 92913 and the car parking location: Snake Pass (A57), above Glossop. USAAF B-24 bomber 42-50668 of the 854th Bomb Squadron was flying from the American airbase at North Pickenham in Norfolk to Burtonwood airbase near Warrington on 19 February 1945. Which tragically crashed whilst descending through cloud on 3rd November 1948 killing all 13 crewmembers. Defiant Mk.I N3378 of No.255 Sqn RAF crashed at Near Bleaklow Stones on the 29th August 1941. Flypast The pilot was unhurt, but the machine sustained extensive damage and was eventually airlifted to the A57 at Doctors Gate. Scattered across an area of Bleaklow moorland is the remains of the American World War II era Boeing Superfortress bomber called the B-29 'Overexposed'. This photo (my first visit to this site in low cloud) shows some fragments with similar exposed peat. All of the wreckage seen last time is gone, though a bit of skinning and a new cross have replaced it. Radio Operator, Staff Sergeant Gene A. Gartner Meanwhile it would be lovely to see the photo of your dad. We'd never seen it before. One of the biggest risks is in walking along the paved sections when they are iced up. At the risk of sounding paternalistic, Id advise those dressed for the pub and without map and compass against it. Did see a cairn with an arrow pointing left, then shortly after that there was a stream on your right? County/Area - Derbyshire. The start of the path has collapsible bollards to prevent vehicular access to all but emergency services (some broken car window glass along the path tells the reason for them). . If you intend to visit the site please ensure you are properly equipped for the conditions on the hill which can change very quickly, as well as being very wet under foot. I can truly say it was, Read More Iceland The Escapism and Beauty of The Laugavegur Hiking TrailContinue, The Eden Valley, Cumbria is home to buildings old, great and historic ruin. Obviously some parts have decayed to dust but it is obvious that others have been removed. Photographic reconnaissance squadron USAF. On November 3rd 1948, during a flight from Scampton in Lincolnshire to the Burtonwood United States Air Force base near Warrington in Lancashire, the Superfortress "Over Exposed" crashed on to . There is also a poignancy to this walk as it visits an aircraft crash site which claimed 13 lives. But sure enough Flickrer symbianos07 (Jason) was out on an early morning walk, planning on photographing this particular crash site. For more, please see the account of a member of the recovery party which arrived on site the day after (photo above, top left or link here). We were glad of the extra planning we had done and for the rain coats we had packed. It is doubtful the crew ever saw the ground. Years since I bought Flypast Maps and compass are always a great idea for rugged hikes and walks. Bleaklow Plane Crash Walk. Or what is equally likely, bearing in mind that both aircraft were in very steep climbing attitudes, is that, in reaction to his leaders over-hasty pull, Flight Lieutenant Green had pulled even harder, got high, and being momentarily unsighted from his leader, had collided in blindly pushing back into position. A stillness and a sense of reflection and remembrance is in the air. The ordnance survey map for the area is OL1 - Peak District (Dark Peak Area.) South African airmen Pilot Officer Stanley John Daly Robinson and Acting Pilot Officer Jack Elliott Thomas were both killed when their Blenheim crashed during a training exercise 30 January 1939. The court of inquiry, however, did not treat with such speculation, finding only that Flying Officer Horne, as section leader, had failed to observe the area safety height which he should have been familiar with regardless of any missed transmission although it found some little mitigation in his faulty radio. It is usually very wet underfoot. Thank you for commenting here and apologies for the delay in replying. From the Higher Shelf Stones trig point, walk east to visit the B29 Superfortress crash site (grid reference SK 09063 94874).It's a well-trodden route, although you might need to bear right or left to avoid the mud! Required fields are marked *. The moorland views were spectacular 360 degrees of beauty and the trail well kept which is a real treat considering the exposed moorland all around with some very extreme weather conditions at this high level with no let up throughout the winter months especially. Fabulous light and excellent info. At SK 09848 94244 the paving stones reappear, climbing slightly just ahead of you. Terry David Moore Email : tmoore77@cox.net. bleaklow plane crash grid ref. In this case, or if you miss the path turning, stick to the intermittently paved sections of the PW, walk past a PW marker stone and as the path emerges from the deep grough you have been in, you will arrive at a cairn where the path appears to fork. A good piece of kit is a lifesaver bottle which has a water purification filter which means you can fill up from streams. This is not the work of "curious walkers". Landon P. Tanner. All 13 crew members were killed. The nearby crater of the following plane no longer has any visible wreckage t all. He tried to set the load down again, but as a skid made contact with the ground a rolling motion was imparted and the helicopter, with its ability to respond to corrective lateral control now diminished, tipped onto its side. Photo taken last May after a chilly night out on Bleaklow. Thanks. From here, the route is easy to follow for the remainder of the . Sgt. Photo above showing the route going to the left of the cairn near Hern Clough. Span 141 ft 3 in. But, for long flat walks, daily walks, dog, Read More Mammut Ultimate Pro Low GTX Hiking Shoes from Go OutdoorsContinue, A walk through Nidd Gorge, with its river ad woodland is great to do at any time of year. Here the PW heads north. The site is at grid ref SK 05844 90610 and SK 05731 90583. id proberbly abandon it and quickly turn around with "Bleaklow Lad" thoughts in my mind , but to my surprise it was fellow wreck enthusiast ian , nice meeting you there ian at that early hour ,i find the moors are quite peaceful early morningRe bleaklow ghostys i recently saw on youtube a image showing a figure behind some of the udercarriage struts at the b29 prob one his m8s but they claim other. If I was going to do it, Id probably park by Torside reservoir and visit the site of de Havilland Beaver 52-6145 at Bramah Edge first, get the steepest climb out of the way. In 1948 there Was no Radar Altimeter so the Radar operator likely had not much to do on this flight. Ian. Bleaklow plane wreckage and higher shelf stones. Much of the main plateau of Bleaklow is a boggy peat moorland, seamed by 'groughs' (pronounced 'gruffs', water-eroded channels in the peat) and lacking strong changes in elevation in poor conditions its traverse is probably the most navigationally challenging in the Peak District. View on Bing maps using Ordnance Survey mapping. Already on a training exercise upon the Kinder Scout moors, the RAF Harpur Hill rescue team headed to Bleaklow and located the crash site at about 16:30, by which time the light was fading. The Bleaklow Bomber was a US Air Force (USAF) Boeing RB-29A Superfortress that crashed near Higher Shelf Stones on Bleaklow in the Peak District in 1948. In Medieval times the paths were trodden by Cistercian Monks, Read More Springtime in Pontrhydygroes, CeredigionContinue, I was off grid in digital life for a period of time on my Iceland trip, and why? beside the moorland known as National Trusts, Maps and compass are always a great idea for rugged hikes and walks. Ours has been great value. Striking view of these engines Very good photo in warm morning light. A slab of stone flat on the ground on your left marks the spot where you leave the PW. They have yet to be named. Im glad I went. One of the gun turrets is on display at the air museum in Newark-on-Trent, Nottinghamshire. Take a map and compass, and know how to use them. Airspeed Oxford NM683, Rushup Edge, Peak District. WARNING: This site has become very popular with visitors after extensive exposure on social media, Patch Haley, Team Leader of, Make sure you have as a minimum, a proper plan of where you are going and how long it will take, footwear suitable for the wet moorland conditions, extra clothing, waterproofs, food & drink, a map (. The aircraft was on a routine flight from RAF Scampton to American AFB Burtonwood. The fence is part of a long term project to regenerate the vegetation on Bleaklow and a board at the stile provides more information about the scheme. After leaving it far too long I finally got around to planning Bleaklow and some other yet to walk moors of the north Peak District . Route Map & Profile. From the road, look for the path heading north. Randolph R. Mohlenrich Jr, Passenger, Killed. Allow for 3+ hours with young kids. Go to GPS File. The crash occurred on his 1st Birthday. Which tragically crashed whilst descending through cloud on 3, November 1948 killing all 13 crewmembers. Just a ten minute walk from my home in Pontrhydygroes (Welsh for the bridge of the ford of the cross) are some beautiful woodland walks. Best Time to see the B29 Overexposed and Higher Shelf Stones. After reading the entire recovery report you can figure out how he died. Most if not all the crash victims were WW2 Vets. The fragments had all gone, hopefully moved to the main debris pool. It was time to turn back and return to the trail down from Bleaklow. Boeing 'RB-29A 44-61999 was part of the 16th Photographic Reconnaissance Squadron, 91st Reconnaissance Group, 311th Air Division in the Strategic Air Command of USAF. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Bristol Blenheim L1476 on Sykes Moor, Bleaklow. There are a number of aircraft crash sites on Bleaklow. Please see the note at the bottom of this page about the signposts along the route. Finally got around to visiting for the first time last week during a break in the weather (Just before the current storm). Ian, Thanks, conditions sound a little unreliable so I think I will err on the side of caution as you suggest and go without the little one. Nearer the top of the featureless plateau where drainage is less fluid, there are groughs (pronounced gruffs) which can be several metres deep and form narrow channels. Excellent directions and advice. Andrew looks over the wing of the B-24 Liberator, aircraft wrecks on Kinder and Bleaklow. There is a memorial to the crew of the superfortress here and many remembrance crosses left in their memory. air crash site on Bleaklow photos, history, directions and grid references", "RB-29A 44-61999, Higher Shelf Stones, Bleaklow", "Superfortress 44-61999 "Over Exposed!" Range 3250 miles. Based on the flight time, the crew believed it had passed the hills and began to descend. David Devere Moore is buried in Arlington National Cemetary in Wash., DC., Section 12, right down hill from the Tomb of the Unknown soldier. Approximate post code for the lay-by is S33 0AB. It was modified as a reconnaissance aircraft, rather than a bomber. I had intended to visit the site this afternoon and take some new photos but alas, something happened which scuppered my plans for the day. Added to that, some of the Pennine Way marker stones had been moved around or toppled over It could have been confusing. So pleased you found it Mandy, thanks for letting me know. to visit and pay your respects. The aircraft was on a routine daytime flight with two other aircraft, leaving RAF Scampton near Lincoln at about 10:15 and heading to the US Air Force base at Burtonwood near Warrington. So it was that on 22 July 1954, four of the No.66 Squadron Sabres were recovering to Linton-on-Ouse, near York, after a high-level interception sortie flown in the course of a major annual-evaluation war-game. Co-pilot, Captain Harry Stroud Went today walked inland from the lay by on the road, walked following all the posts qith arrows on them, right up into the moorland, went in every direction for hours, couldnt find the place no where, we were out there over 3 hours to it and looking around but couldnt find it . Snake pass is an area of natural beauty with so many walks and hikes in all directions and abilities that I could write about the many miles of stunning scenery forever.