Which is probably true for all the people in this series. Honestly I used to hate Nesta until I realized that she is the embodiment of what most of us hate about ourselves. Theres lots of snarling, growling, and male smiling. Rhysand gives her his power, and in doing so, knowingly gives his life. No two characters (with debate, of course) are more alike than Feyre and Nesta. I think that when she was younger, she made the mistake of "hating" on Feyre for helping their family and saving them from starving. In fact, Nesta is probably gonna use her fancy powers to save them, to make the family happy once and for all . p. 632: Nesta Made the house? I think rhysand is used to having family that worships the ground he walks on and treats him like a paragon regardless of how villainous he is and now hes married into this family with this sister that will never like him and he doesnt know how to handle that. p. 556: So Cassians biggest concern with all this is that Lanthys tried to seduce Nesta? I mean, every womans ultimate goal in life should be motherhood and housewife-dom, right? IT'S BORING FOR CHARACTERS TO BE PERFECT! p. 558: WHAT?! Nesta owns no one an apology. You can have your own opinions, but I'm a 1000% Nesta stan and just thought that with all the controversy it might be cool to explain why I feel this way! p. 579: These two have some serious communication issues. Even though mates are supposed to be really rare and all. (And, in all honesty, I think Nesta and Azriel would be much better suited for one another than Nesta and Cassian. Rhysand (pronounced Ree-sand) is the most powerful High Lord in history and the current ruler of the Night Court, alongside Feyre Archeron. She is the eldest of the Archeron sisters and Cassian's mate. You're now seeing Feyre and Rhys through Nesta's eyes, so if she's angry with them or doesn't consider them worthy of her attention, then that's how it's going to feel. Asteria is Rhysand's long-lost sister. p. 154: Why do I get the feeling that Nesta is eventually going to become a Valkyrie? Nesta was deemed the villain in the situation for telling Feyre, and she was so scorned for it that Rhysand kicked her out of Velaris, but he himself faced no repercussions. !Okay, so admittedly Im only 400 pages into ACOSF, and I do think that SJMs writing is far better in this book. Are they insane? I dont expect their POVs, but maybe something better when theyre in the scene. Rhys is probably the sanest out of all of these people. SINGLE. p. 467: Yes, Nesta, get mad at these idiots! A Book Owl's Corner, https://livdevine.substack.com/p/a-court-of-manipulation-delusion, Follow A Book Owl's Corner on WordPress.com, Reacting To Five-Star Reviews of Horrible Books Ive Read These Past FewYears, Recommending Books Based On Weird Duolingo Sentences || FantasyEdition, In German: Warum liest du eigentlich nie was auf Deutsch? || Mein kompliziertes Verhltnis zur deutschen Literatur und ein Versuch, etwas daran zundern. i love to think about the villain and their reasons and points of view. They name the girl after Cassians mother. p. 672: At least there is one sane person among these Illyrian warriors. What trauma could the house have? Im sure the sex will start in a page at the latest. When Is The Pineapple Festival In Jensen Beach, Florida, Ive dug into Nesta and I read acosf and I felt like the only time I liked her was when she finally broke down and then when she told Feyre she loved her. Rhysand's action are just as bad, if not worse. Why not let the other person have a life after one of you is dead? Seriously, are they insane! And he literally locked you in a house??? And I think rhysand hates that. "I hate that question," Persephone closed her eyes. Rhys is seriously starting to annoy me. That is my opinion. Before he could land the final blow, however, Elain stabbed him through the back of the neck. I think yes that is part of the reason that she hated her. Mor does not hate Nesta, but despises her for her attitude towards Cassian. This is not romantic, but egoistic! p. 293: Azriel is possibly the only sane person in this entire series. i'm not saying that what he did was ok. it wasn't a great choice. Rhysand and Azriel come in to handle the situation. The insecurity and self doubt he had felt in that period of time has been more destructive than any other part of his life. It will either be Rhysand pursuits Feyre, or Nesta comes into the fae world and snatches his heart. Also, the whole premise screams Dark Jewels Trilogy by Anne Bishop without any of the likeable elements. p. 654: Ah yes, let the 500-something-th Hunger Games begin. Finally! Im sure were gonna have a lot more of these, too. I can appreciate the attempt SJM tried to do with him, the good ol romantic interest switcheroo, but then not only does he literally physically assault Feyre, but sexually assault her, hold her under duress, keep important medical pregnancy information from her, and literally is such a scumbag for all his my choice bullshit, the power imbalances between him and Feyre are disgusting. Thanks for reminding us. I WANT TO MARRY HIM!!! p. 194: Stop speaking on behalf of these women like you understand everything about them, Cassian. "I hate that question," Persephone closed her eyes. But threatening to kill the loved one of your wife is not okay, no matter the situation. Seriously, Nesta? 5/16/2020 in General. Why am I getting Renesmee flashbacks here? Why Nesta hates Feyre | Fandom p. 616: Okay, this is getting kind of over the top. And I mean hate. p. 577: Im so confused. Now onto Rhysand. Even when on official business? I did not read more than the first sentence but was the book good or bad, to you? Should I even have expected anything else? why tf does no one hold this man to any standard it's so fucked Cookie Notice -It gets to a point where they literally take naps together because the weight of his wings are a staple in their sleeping process On the bed. p. 336: Okay, this sounds even worse than I imagined. p. 216: And thus, we get the smut weve all been waiting for Also, can I just say that Nesta didnt tell the house not to watch this time around? p. 493: Cassian knew that Nesta often hated herself. Yeah, so why are you being so cruel to her, then?? LATER!!!!! They even wanted Rhysand to be high king. For more information, please see our Honeslty though, they should have made Elain the youngest sister. Also, Feyre has Illyrian anatomy now? I'm taken aback. p. 743: The stale biscuit sounds like the better option. I get into detail here https://livdevine.substack.com/p/a-court-of-manipulation-delusion. p. 622: I do like that theyre Valkyrie now, but still think its kind of unbelievable that they learned the necessary skills in so little time. First of all, do you love Rhysand? Please tell me Rhys isnt really going to let Eris believe he might give Nesta to him as a wife And how did he fall in love with her during one dance??? Seriously, all these people are nuts! I'll just stay here and practice on my . New users, please check the ABOUT section for rules and FAQ. p. 747: I like Eris. p. 518: Also, why are these couples so into absolute dirty talk? Morever, SJM makes Feyre and Rhysand at the end of ACOSF morally infallible. DAY. So far, I am only halfway through ACOSF and my feelings for Nesta are still changing. p. 425: Are Rhys and Feyre even capable of having a conversation without tons of sexual innuendo? Sure, I can live with that . p. 250: Gosh, with everyone having super-scent, you never have any privacy, do you? Why do all the women in SJMs books fall for these sadist, hyper-sexual maniacs? Not when Feyre is everything that Nesta is- and everything Nesta wishes she could be. Also, Cassian is beyond dumb. Tamlin ***Spoilers don't read if you haven't read A Court of Wings and Hell no. Why couldnt her relationship with music have been explored in more depth, huh? Which is kinda sad. And at some point, I think that she realized she was wrong, but thought it was too late to "care" and "atone" for her . No two characters (with debate, of course) are more . Also, can someone please explain why they are killing each other in the first place? Excerpts and links may be used, provided that full and clear credit is given. Yeah, right. "You two are just in time for the show," she purred, gesturing for Rhysand to come stand next to her throne. * TikTok video from kina (@kinasoberano): "Reply to @poopoo_peepee6 this is if i remember everything correctly which i think i do, but correct me if i'm wrong #rhysand #rhysandandfeyre #acotar". p. 214: Slaughtering everyone off is a bit extreme. Theyre treating Nesta like a toddler! p. 513: Of course they started fucking like animals on the shore immediately when this conversation was over. Why would I love Rhysand? now if you'll excuse me, i have to go to the meeting i called to vote on whether or not my sister-in-law is entitled to know her own body's capabilities and limits." Asteria is Rhysands long-lost sister. She does not want him to suffer. Like yes I do see how Rhysand is overprotective of feyre and Nesta can be seen as dangerous.. but the way he treated her sometimes was disgusting and completely unlike him. I honestly see so many people try to romanticize this, saying its hot or sexy No, no it wasnt. Would I appreciate my partner not respecting my body? Or other cracking noises? YES OMGOMGOMG. Why Nesta hates Feyre. 2. but i think it's also important to remember everything that makes rhysand who he is. rmnsi. p. 406: I actually really like these training scenes. Never Alone - Chapter 13 - Frufrusc - A Court of Thorns and Roses It did actually turn out to be a boy. "I was planning on using the Harp to hide your court from the rest of Prythian. Rhysand treats all the women in his life with equality and respect, and he reminds Feyre that she always has an independent choice in every matter. I am not saying Rhys did not have a right to be mad, he 100% did. And youd better stay furious with your oh-so-great mate for a while! Oh. Rhysand. When Elain goes to Lord Nolan's residencealong with Feyre, Rhysand, Mor, and Nestato ask for sanctuary for any humans that will be evacuating their homes once the wall comes down, she reunites with Graysen, . I dont think nesta will change in acosf per se, I just think that she'll make peace with who she is and accept herself wholeheartedly which she has never done and that will lead the rest to do the same. Just because Rhys has five enchanted palaces, it doesnt mean thats normal! This is hilarious! Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. The IC will never be whole and happy unless nesta is whole and happy and that's the truth. It will either be Rhysand pursuits Feyre, or Nesta comes into the fae world and snatches his heart. Not long. I do have an idea how to get around this, but theres no guarantee its going to be successful and even if it is, its going to require a ton of additional work, Anyway, my thesis frustration put me in the perfect Im gonna read smutty books instead of working mood, so I decided to finally see what all the ACOSF fuss was about. p. 544: Plucking random strings on this harp sounds like a terrible idea But I guess theyre already in tons of trouble anyway, so sure, why not? Cassian refrained from whirling on Rhys and Feyre, demanding to know what the hell they were thinking. Yeah, seriously! This is Tamlin all over again! And yes, I truly appreciate the sadistic humor of the person who took the time to write the programming languages error notifications and make them seem so human and relatable Although I really hope the problem will be easier to solve than I currently think! By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Rhys clinked his glass against mine. Feyre just forgave him and everyone who was in on this, and it reminded me once again of ACOMAF, where Tamlin was written off as a complete asshole for keeping things from her. But the reason is still blatantly obvious. Even I have shot a bow before, and trust me, I would not be able to do this. Unpopular opinion: those who apologize for Rhysand and those who hate on Nesta drive me actually insane. p. 573: Aww, thats such a sweet present! I didnt even know it was possible to have so much smut and so little plot in a single book, but here you are. Look at Yen from the Witcher, for example, my top kin. So she can have more babies in the future? Azriel? There is literally no acceptable reason to hate Feyre. p. 686: Why not just work together, you idiots? Nesta was in the wrong for her intent to hurt Feyre. The story was a mixture of what Id describe as Beauty and the Beast meets Twilight meets porn meets The Hunger Games and had plotholes bigger than the actual plot itself. Rhysand + UTM and "Context". Rhysand arguably takes away Nesta's own autonomy and choices in her living situation and forces her into house arrest under economic coercion and he's supposed to be a feminist? "I hate that question too," Nesta admitted. p. 339: Why??? Other than having to watch tons of hard fucking, that is. Feysand | Wiki | Sarah J. Maas Amino Like I've been r*ped and sexually assualted. Why is Rhys so mean to Nesta and so Forgiving to Elain? So what if war happens. acotar fancast rhysand - dutchclarke.com And Im guessing its gonna be Nesta, who will then make feminist icon-and-Im in a relationship built on trust Rhysand even more pissed. Even her name has power. its like that little Illyrian boy who had to fight for everything he owned. Remember when we first read a court of thorns and roses and we all loved Tamlin? p. 662: Of course the charms are beacons. Did you think it was as ridiculously funny as I did? "I'm on a tight schedule. TRUTH. Or try to make an alliance with Bellius and company I mean, would they really not have made it? I couldnt stop snorting the entire time I was reading it, so I guess Im gonna have to give it 2.5 stars. And Feyre, stop excusing Rhyss horrible behavior! ), p. 103: Wow, it took 103 pages for the word cock to drop for the first time, Im proud of your restraint, Sarah. (I mean, thats literally what Im doing right now, so ). p. 708: I still think its dumb that Nesta didnt just go with her friends. I just thought this would be funny #nestaarcheron #nessian #feyrearcheron #feyreandrhysand #themorrrigan #mor #rhysmorrigan #nyx #feyrerhysandnyx #feysand #acotar #acomaf #acosaf #acosf #booktok I HATE Rhysand. p. 394: Well, that certainly turned very steamy very quickly. p. 450: Why do I get the feeling that Narbens going to show up again? Which caused everyone to ignore Feyre. this is my impression of r/hys: "how DARE you insinuate that i don't respect a woman's right to choose. 1 star reviews on Goodreads are the best! So yes, at least you have that now. Sure, sounds logical. Why The ACOTAR Series by Sarah J Maas Was Simply Not Worth The Hype Bad, most definitely But it was so bad it was also really funny again, so in a way I suppose you could also say it was good? If Feyre had given Rhysand the okay to kill Nesta then that would be the only scene where that would fit right. p. 469: Why didnt Nesta marry this duke guy, then? ". When Feyre returned from the Spring Court in ACOWAR, bruh was Nesta not even relieved. The reason why I love Nesta is because her character is very complex. cc: since some people were wondering why i called rhys from the acotar series | cc: problematic in a previous video, this is my video explaining why i . If they want their friendship to stick, they have no choice but to change their attitude towards nesta because nestas been through far too much to assimilate into their dynamic. In chapter one, Cassian is sent by Feyre to meet Nesta in her shabby apartment building. Until this day it's a mystery why Nesta hates Feyre that much. I completely get not wanting to add stress to your wifes pregnancy, but did Rhysand not know his mate at all??? does lazarbeam have a wife; Books. p. 208: Rhys is really starting to annoy me, too. Also, I cant help but feel like this was taken directly from that Disney movie Whats it called again, Smart House? p. 529: Yeah, Im shocked Rhys gave her the sword, too. I mean, you can say that he hates Nesta for how she treated Feyre in the past when they dealt with poverty but didnt Elain do the same? But Ive been feeling like Im reading fan fiction for a while now, so I guess its fine. Tamlin was so dreamy *sigh*, but Rhysand mysterious drew me to him in just a few pages, like.. men, that was fast. Someone better tell Feyre! Why Do Cross Country Runners Have Skinny Legs? I hate Nesta. : r/acotar Also, Valkyries are Norse?? Did you like Nesta? (Edit: Probably because the foreshadowing in this book has the subtlety of a sledgehammer). From what priviledge do you sit up on to look down and apologize for abusive and power imbalanced relationships and brutally honest depictions of mental health and substance abuse and to think it's funny or something? p. 542: Based upon scent alone, I would say that you two are mates? If she wishes to say, Feyre, Im sorry I treated you the way I did. Fine. Feyre and Morrigan fight through all the soldiers they encounter, while Rhysand tries to reach the king, who uses magic and illusion to evade capture. p. 326: Okay, why do I get the feeling that Rhys is going to be even more horrible now that he knows what Nestas power is? I definitely saw Nesta having loads of choices here. A Court of Mist and Fury Quotes Showing 1-30 of 1,127. p. 102: And thus, we get the first mention of toes curling. Rhysand growls. YES OMGOMGOMG. Poor house. Rhysand is just as abusive and disgusting as Tamlin. Not when Feyre is everything that Nesta is- and everything Nesta wishes she could be. Scan this QR code to download the app now. If my 500+ year old husband was acting like that, while I had to be the mediator, I would be SO done. Its not like we should have expected anything else. everything he does is seen from Feyres point of view, which is biased considering he's her mate.