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As for the man having the title of pastor was a joke, he couldnt pastor an old lady across the road! 3. The Scripture: It is entirely inerrant and sufficient for all Christian life. For example these same people existed when He taught to look upon a woman with lust was Adultry & not just the physcial act. Im a Southern Baptist and celebrate Jesus and His grace! It is the Lords tithe, and God chose to use his tithe in the OT and in the NT for the maintenance of the priesthood (those that are called out for the specific service of God in ministering to the Lord and to the people on behalf of the Lord) and the maintenance of the house of God a place wherein Gods people assemble for the purpose of worship (honoring) the Lord. That is just my pointyou I fear are dedicating a almost hate site for this denomination when its no reason tovs just warning sagnist all bad behavior. The name Protestant was given to those churches which came out of Roman Catholicism during the Reformation which began in the 1500s. However, bottom lineJesus never shared but truth to all incl Phairsees so if His position on tithing was as being not to be left undonethan I believe it stands as something that is good to do, pleasing to God. 27 Apr 2023 15:20:37 Many churches by this time had come under the domination of the Rome government and had ceased from being New Testament churches. Our church stresses the importance of listening to music that is Christ-honoring and doesnt sound like war as the music mentioned while worshiping the golden calf in the Old Testament (inspired Scripture) 01 May 2023 20:13:01 There are no rules about what to give at all. 7. It takes time to get over all the brainwashing of the IFB but over time you will learn to recognize it for what it really is, which is control. He refused to wear the robes of his church office, and refused to let unsaved people take the Lords Supper. Still others rail about the same sin constantly, possibly out of their own guilt. IFB churches are not the problem. WebA former Baptist missionary has been found guilty of sexually abusing a 4-year-old, who tested positive for gonorrhea last April Jordan Webb, affiliated with an Independent Fundamental Baptist church, could face up to 32 years in [14], Tarrant County, Texas preacher Dillon Awes attracted considerable controversy for advocating that "every single homosexual" in America be lined up against a wall and shot in the back of the head. You are correct, I was surprised. So you made assumptions based on very little. 7.) They practice the Biblical teachings of separation as stated in Ephesians 5:11, which says, Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. Although they were a great deal more pious than the Church of England they still practiced most of its beliefs including infant baptism. When I told my Church of Christ neighbor that the Scripture tells us to worship God with musical instruments, she said Thats Old Testament, but in the New Testament it says to sing, making melody in your heart to the Lord. And she said that means that your vocal chords are the instrument. Note..I, no particular denomination. They will not engage in joint meetings, or evangelistic endeavors, with Protestants, Catholics, or other doctrinally unsound church groups, who do not hold to the fundamental teachings of the New Testament. One young lady began attending a non IFB Baptist church. We had not joined the church yet, and didnt go every time the doors were opened or participate in every event, etc. I wish you wrll. There are hundreds of archaic words that I have no idea what they mean and then you have words that have actually changed meaning since the KJV was published like conversation, to me that means to talk with someone, not in the KJV, it means behavior, prevent is another one, to me it means to stop someone from doing something, not in the KJV, it means to precede. teaching that all sex is dirty, etc..), I see no sense in throwing the baby out with the bath water. It lead me down a road that took me farther away from God rather than closer. 16:18, concerning preserving the institution of the local church, that even the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. Doctrinally sound New Testament churches have always existed from the time of Christ and the Apostles until today. 2.) You should tithe, but if you dont thats between you and the Lord. What youre experiencing is absolutely normal and it gets easier with time. If I wanted to tithe I wouldnt know where to go, because tithes were paid to a levitical priest. The Star-Telegram discovered at least 412 allegations of sexual misconduct in 187 independent fundamental Baptist churches and their affiliated institutions, spanning 40 states and Canada. This lasted only one Sunday however, and the following Sunday the doors were opened and services held in defiance of the order. It is my conviction that this is contrary to the very foundation of what is a true New Testament church. Through preaching the New Testament, the Gospel went forth in power and the Baptist movement grew rapidly. Does Westboro Baptist in Topeka, Kansas (Thank God for 9/11, God hates fags, Thank God for dead soldiers) fall under the IFB category? Everyones story is important and we want to hear yours! We must agree with John Smyth, the true New Testament church is founded on its belief and practice of the Scriptures, and not on any outward succession of a visible or invisible organization. I believe that the Bible is clear on what is modest apparel. [4] Anderson has also produced videos in which he attacks the religion of Judaism and questions the official account of the Holocaust. My mother is divorced, as are a few others in the congregation. Believers are not set apart by the clothing they wear so much as their conduct, character, and lifestyle. None of us that I know of follow his every word like it was the Gospel truth. In my civilian life..and please do pray for our military..I am very honored to serve as Senior Pastor of Coral Ridge in Jacksonville (FL). However, let no one think little of the name of Baptist for it is the name that most has identified those individuals and churches who have uncompromisingly stood on the Word of God. [13] Robertson had previously attracted media attention after he stated that gay people should be shot and New Zealand prime minister Jacinda Ardern should "go home and get in the kitchen". Any professed church that does not recognize these is Apsotasy & not the Church. I certainly need Gods help to do the things He has asked me to do. If the pastor or anyone else makes your life unbearable, remember, they are not doing it to you, they are doing it to Jesus; and they will surely pay the price. So many churches have lost wonderful ministry opportunties by turning away those hurting, divorced folks, its a shame, God help us all to be sensitive to those who are hurting all around us. Shall we offer excuses that were only human? Suppose too that some of them on reading that Bible were to believe and repent of their sins and place their trust in Gods Son and His redemption for personal sin. Baptist also believe the Bible interprets itself, and that Christ is the only head of the church. But after a long nights toil, they had caught no fish! You can tell right away that something doesnt sound right. WebA former Baptist missionary has been found guilty of sexually abusing a 4-year-old, who tested positive for gonorrhea last April Jordan Webb, affiliated with an Independent Fundamental Baptist church, could face up to 32 years in I think it is exactly right to see that without divine drawing, no one ever would come to Christ. In this sense, any church which founds itself strictly on the New Testament teachings, is a true and Biblical church, even if it existed in time, only yesterday. What do Brad Pitt, Josh Groban, and Sleepless in Seattle have in common? WebTwin Cities Baptist Church Independent, Fundamental, Baptist work dedicated to the edification of the believer and spreading the Gospel of Jesus Christ for the Glory of God. I read what you wrote, thats why I replied with what I wrote. I understand what you are saying about these kind of messages with strong emotional appeals. It is characterized by professing to believe in separation but doing Baptist continued to grow in numbers through the period of the Great Awakening and up to the time of the Revolutionary War. Fundamental Baptists are strict in interpreting the Bible in a literal sense. These true Baptists added the adjectives Fundamental and Independent to their name in order that they not be identified with the false practices and teaching of the doctrinally unsound churches using the Baptist name. Failure to pay the tax brought the wrath of the civil and church leaders and people were publicly beaten, placed in stocks, fined, imprisoned, and banished from the colony by the civil authorities under the direction of the Puritan church officials. G.L. Here we began the healing process which is at times painful. If I was wearing a sponge Bob square pants costume while leading worship I would probably be asked to change into something more appropriate. In recent years the news media has called doctrinally unsound church such as the Charismatics and Pentecostals fundamentalists. Tithing I believe is liberty. By 1626, the churches had grown from one, to five churches and by 1644 there were forty congregations. 1. Im here to tell you, however, that the confusion you have is due to the IFBs retention and manipulation tactics. WebAlways make sure if you do leave the church it is for the right Biblical reasons, done in the right way, led by God, for the godly peace of your family, and a Biblically correct (See Acts 20:28, Hebrews 13:7). Theres no recourse. I couldnt have said it better myself Ken. Offers of religious liberty drew many Baptists to Its so good knowing that we have an advocate with the Father that helps us to do that very thing. I assume you are referring to the errant position that many Pastors, Deacons, or Elders have taken placing themselves between God & Man. Thomas Jefferson is believed to have been deeply influenced to press for religious freedom in American, by the plight of several Baptist preachers he knew. Anyhow he screamed through most of it (funny I never see Jesus screaming at folks, particularly His followers) told some fantastic tales, not saying he was lying, but, well you know what I mean. I think that you should go kill your children. Fundamental Baptist use the name in its strictest sense as meaning holding to the fundamentals of the New Testament teachings without error. But Im pretty sure we can agree that If I showed up to your Church naked i would probably not be allowed in. Exposing the Dangerous Teachings of the Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) Denomination, Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) Deception 2009-2020, Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB) Deception. The name Fundamental Independent Baptist is of recent origin and came into being because many modern day Baptist churches compromising the Word of God and teaching and practicing false doctrines. 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What I want to know is this typical of someone raised IFB or am I crazy? Thus, history and the doctrines of Protestantism clearly show that Baptists are not Protestants. They left these churches because of their strong conviction the Word of God should not be compromised. The crime of these men was that they believed the Bible was Gods Truth, and rejected dictates of false churches and men. True, New Testament churches strongly believe that all doctrinal error is sin as the New Testament teaches. What do you mean by Fundamentalism? Personally, I try to for the most part give as I think God is pleased incl supporting Evangelism Ministrys like Compassion (that not only care for childrens physical need but also spirtual vs. the formerly known as Christian Childrens Fund now I believe under the name Child Aide, mainly becaus eCompassion confesses to be Christian & I believe to support church endeavors. [8], The New IFB website states that it is not a denomination and that New IFB pastors have differing views over minor theological issues. Churches dont have the right to make rules about dress apart from Scriptural guidelines and principles. I watched a man die last week. It is believed that God meant what he said in Revelation 22:18, the Scriptures were not to added to or taken from. About this time the Puritans were also becoming strong in England. Cooper P. Abrams, III ALL RIGHTS RESERVED: This publication has been reprinted with permission from the author. Pagan temples became the meetinghouses for Christians. Rome, then hired unregenerate pagan priests as Christian ministers. How many people are in churches were the pastor is unaccountable? No new testament christian anywhere in scripture, that I know of, is compelled to give a tithe. 1 Peter 3:16, Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ. As I grew up in this church and began to understand more, it became clear to me that what was being preached First, I must say I have been a little hesitant to share my journey. Actually what should have been first was the erroneous teaching that water baptism has anything at all to do with ones salvation, it does not! The transformation God is making in our lives makes us stand out. NOT ONE. The Dutch colony of New York for a time persecuted Baptists within its territories. God has not entrusted that authority to impart salvation to any man or church. New Independent Fundamentalist Baptist churches (also known as the New IFB) or officially the New Independent Fundamental Baptist Movement are an association of conservative, King James Only, independent Baptist churches. I dont know what you are referring to by saying they dont use the O.T.? Jesus quoted the old testament. That feels strange, uncomfortable and even unsafe, but as you learn to embrace your freedom from the IFBs cultish practices you will slowly begin to see the IFBs manipulation and guilt tactics for what they really are brainwashing. with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you. We have the freedom to give as much as we like, without any compulsion. For some physical escape isnt possible, so youve got many beaten on that front. What Jesus is talking about in Matthew 5 is ceremonial law. WebOur goal here has always been to provide encouragement and resources for independent Baptists. It is the clergymen who are affiliated. I have read (cried) through all of these about 5 times. Some have pointed to the Anabaptists as the examples of early Baptist churches. If the staff at Costa Mesa accepts the person, he becomes an affiliated clergyman in a global network led by Chuck Smith.. Martin Luther until his death held to this false sentiment and disputed with the Swiss reformer Ulrich Zwingli (1484-1531), over the matter. On Sunday, March 26, 2023, Pastor Scott McFeters moved into the role of Senior Pastor at Greater Portland Baptist Church. No one in USA at least (whether IFB, CALVARLY CHAPEL, MOST CHURCHES, etc) tithe on all belongings at they practiced thier & our money/wealth/argicultural exchange & system is very different. I already estb basis of why Tithing I believe is good (must read all post under Lynne). These churches are good examples of Bible believing churches that existed independent of the Roman Catholic Church, and were for some time not corrupted by its influences. 2. Baptists are not Protestants! I have absolutely loved listening to your podcast. I think Calvary Chapel churches are great. We are not under law, but under grace. I felt distant from God and I felt distant from my Bible. The Anabaptists were mostly a God-fearing group of people.